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Have You and Your Spouse Run Out of Things to Talk About?

By Pam Lamp November 12, 2024 Mindset

In our younger days, I’d watch the older couples next to us in restaurants – and I’d vow we’d never be like them. Those folks who sat across from each other and ate their meals in silence.

I’d nudge my husband. “We won’t be like them. That won’t happen to us.”

Never say never.

As we celebrated our 30th wedding anniversary, with white tablecloths, soft music, and a menu loaded with French dishes, we floundered. Once again.

Perfunctory conversation lasted through cocktails. We rattled off updates on obligatory topics – our sons and their girlfriends, necessary repairs to our 50-year-old home, work calendars, and elderly parent care. But then – after we gave our orders to the attentive waiter – we struggled.

How Had We Run Out of Things to Talk About? 

Before kids and mortgages, our younger selves had a steady stream of thoughts we couldn’t wait to tell the other. Peppered with “Can you imagines?” and “What do you thinks?” our conversations lingered long past dessert.

With our boys grown and gone, I suppose we both exhaled and took a rest from always being on – racing around at full speed between jobs and soccer games and grocery stores and parent meetings. We finally allowed ourselves to relax – too much so. 

According to my confidantes – the girlfriends I meet for coffee and wine and long walks – our quiet existence was not unusual. 

“Marriage is hard, and the excitement doesn’t last forever,” I heard over and over again. 

Their assurances made me feel better. But I wanted more.

The therapist we visited did not think we were falling apart. Still, I winced when she used words like ‘complacent’ and ‘stale’ and ‘stagnant’ to describe our relationship. It seems we expected our marriage to hum along in a happy rhythm without a lot of effort or energy on our parts.

I flinched when she compared our marriage to a withering plant. According to this wise woman seated across the desk from us, our relationship craved a good shot of nourishment and sunlight and fertilizer – tender loving care in the form of novelty. 

Like humans are wired to do, we gravitated toward activities requiring us to stretch ourselves the least. We chose restaurants where reservations and parking spaces were easy to come by. We hung out with those friends we knew the best – the comfortable ones – and were the most like us.

Novel Experiences Reboot a Tired Relationship 

Newness injects excitement and passion and brings couples back to life. 

My husband suggested our next date night activity. As I stepped through the door of the rock climbing gym, the smells of perspiration and wet sneakers greeted me.

“You can do this. It’s a good workout. I bet you’ll want to do it again,” he said. 

I wasn’t so sure. 

As I wiggled into the special harness and climbing shoes, butterflies fluttered in my stomach. I fumbled with the carabiners and belay equipment and rubbed chalk between my sweaty palms.

I was first-date nervous – the sort of emotion between excited and anxious. The same feeling I had when our relationship was fresh and emerging. Back when all we experienced was new and different.

Inching my way up the beginner wall – a vertical twister game, of sorts – I strained to reach the zigzag assortment of foot ledges and handholds. Time and time again, I slipped and lost my grip. Or my strength gave out. I pushed off from the wall with my feet, whooshed down to the base, and creeped back up again.

Beside me, my husband wrestled his way up a more difficult wall. Together we grunted and struggled and smiled. We were having fun.

Still in workout clothes and baseball caps, we rehashed our evening’s adventure over burgers and beers. We were proud of ourselves as a couple. We’d needed a kickstart, a homework assignment, to rediscover the joy of exploration and experimentation.

Newness Brought in Our Spark – and Conversation 

Novelty, we discovered, didn’t have to be on a grand scale.

Cooking new recipes or sipping coffee in a trendy neighborhood or watching a wildlife documentary all contributed to our relationship’s reboot.

Nowadays, we are the older couple in restaurants. We’re the ones the younger diners may notice. But we are talking. We converse about the long list of things we want to do and learn. And how we can continue to grow together.

Let’s Have a Conversation:

When was the last time you and your spouse tried something completely out of your comfort zone? Can you remember an occasion when you dined with new friends? Have you made a list of activities you’d like to do together? Please share your stories with the community!

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Linda

My husband and I eat in silence most days and when once when I pointed out the lack of conversation, he replied “we’re eating, we can’t talk!” Oye!! What I’m starting to realize after 36 years is that maybe women enjoy chit chat more than men do! I do find that when we’ve been out on a drive or done something new we have more to say, but it does take a bit more effort to engage. Like someone else said I would like some fun and excitement now and I’ve learned the only way is to plan something (always me) and drag him to it and miraculously he seems to enjoy it and have fun and we talk about it for days! I hate that we’ve fallen into stereotypical roles now but if that works, I’ll keep trying I guess. I’m just ready for someone else to take the lead sometimes!! Seems like women work so hard in marriages.

Liz P.

We sure do. I like not being married! The partnership is great because he knows he has to step up and do his part. No taking me for granted because he knows that if it’s not good, I won’t stay. That’s worked well for the last 17+ years, and so much happier than in the 20 year marriage prior to that, where I was taken for granted but worked very hard in the house and on our social lives.

Julie

Hubby and ibadan discussion several years ago where I told him that we needed adventure. He did not disagree. We have done some things differently this year wit different holidays and such. Hubby loves sports. I love sports too, just not the same ones. We have learned each other’s sports. For me Gymnastics. For him football. I play fantasy football. These are all conversation starters. We truly love one another and want to make the other happy.

Nan

My husband and I crack each other up and laugh and are still silly together after 35 years of marriage. He loves to talk about lots of subjects, so I’m a very lucky woman, indeed, it seems! Still, what is it specifically about restaurant talk that makes us sit and stare at each other and feel uncomfortable? Is it a sin to sit in each others company and NOT HAVE to have some big meaningful conversation? Hold hands instead!

Sarah Hendricks

My husband and his family moved in next door to us when I was 8 years old. 11 years later, we got married and that was 53 years ago. We still have a lot to talk about, but we do have our moments. He was never into sports, but over the last couple years, he’s started watching any and all sports events on TV. I mean, the man tried to tell me how much strategy there is involved in curling! I have never had an interest in sports, and it’s like nails on a blackboard hearing all the fans screaming in the background. So, I sort of leave the room and find something else to do while he watches sports. His next interest is watching the news. I am interested in what’s going on around the world, but not as interested as he is. In fact, there’s so much negativity on the news these days I get depressed when it’s on for more than an hour or so. So, we don’t have much to say about his two biggest “activities”. I love horror movies…the more gruesome the better….he prefers old cowboy movies (John Wayne era). Our children and grandchildren are grown and living their own lives, so there’s not much to talk about with them AND, we’re both getting hard of hearing so we often have to repeat sentences which makes conversation less than exciting. When we get into a conversation, things go great…it’s just finding topics we have things to day about! We’re not physically able to go to a climbing wall and even taking walks is difficult due to bad knees or backs or whatever hurts today. I’m going to put some effort into finding some new ideas as you suggest. I love the man dearly, and hate to think of our marriage as stagnant!

karen

You must be reading my mind! I don’t even want to go out to eat anymore. It is too embarrassing for me to sit there in silence. I try really hard to get a conversation going, but he never picks up his end. He is not interested in any of my thoughts or opinions, or activities. It is like this at home too. I would love to find cool and adventurous things to do together but due to attitude and bad knees he is not up for anything. He works and putters in the garden and is happy. We are hitting a wall after 37 years and I want more fun, laughter and play in our lives. Really this has been on my mind for weeks now. What a crazy serendipity that you posted this today.

Pamela Lamp

Could you plant a garden and do that together? Maybe discussing what to plant could be a conversation starter?!

Catherine Vance

Good article, good responses.
HEY, girlfriends!!! Sometimes a “rut” just means, “We’re comfortable here.”
No one size fits all, however–
–we watch documentaries, the news, sports, or game shows on TV while we have dinner on TV trays. We actually have to hit “pause” to one or the other of us can
complain about the news, think a minute on that Jeopardy answer, whatever!
–new activities? new places? Doesn’t have to be exotic. Just go to the movies at 11:00 a.m. or pick a town you’ve never been to and go for a day trip. My brother and his wife do that. Local community theater. High school theater! Anything!
I’ll stop now. 38 years and yeah, we have conversation lulls if we’re out to dinner.
So we go out to BREAKFAST, insist on a breakfast window, and people-watch.
Love endures lulls. Even the project of “cleaning out the attic” can become fun if
you enjoy the process more than the event (finishing).

Nan

Pretty much my opinion as well. We each have our own needs and whatever we do, we need to take it into our hands to advocate for ourself. One may be perfectly comfortable the way things are, and some are not. I like this forum because we can be ok no matter what here.

The Author

Pamela Lamp is the author of Do the Next New Thing. At Who I Met Today, a blog and podcast, she interviews people from all walks of life. Through conversations about health, hobbies, books, food, and travel, she invites you to join her, explore uncharted territory, and expand your horizons.

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